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Genealogy of The Clan Gregor - 56 - Descent of Roro according to Innerhaddon 2

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Griogair V [1]
b.~1490
m.dtr of Colin Campbell of Glenorchy
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Alasdair breac
b.~1530
m.dtr of MacNeil of Barra
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Eoin dubh mac Alasdair breac
b.~1560 d.1611
m.dtr of MacPherson of Phoness
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Gregor (Macandowie)
b.~1600
m. Christian McWilliam
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John
b.~1635
m. 1668 a dtr of Farquharson of Auchenchyle
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Drumcharrie--Glen Lyon

Gregor oig (alias Grant)
b.~1668 d.1731
m. Marj Grant 1681
68 - descendants of Gregor oig
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Easter Elchies

John oig
b.~1682
m.1717
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Peter
b.~1727

James
b.~1732

James oig
b.~1690 d.1761
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Malcolm
b.~1720 d.1800
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James
b.~1760

Robert
b.~1765

Charles
b.~1770 d.1841

William
b.~1687
d.1788
Patrick
b.~1700
d.1776
Malcolm
b.~1702
m.1739
had 7 chdn
Kirkmichael

John 1740
Gregor 1749
James 1754
John
b.~1670
m. 1698
James
b.~1672

Alex
b.~1675
d. 1767
Patrick (alias Gordon)
b.~1678
m. ~1730
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-------------------------Delavour------------------------------
John
b.~1732
d.1816
Robert (alias Grant) [3]
b.~1737
m. 1768?
3 wives
d.1816
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Delavour

Charles
b.~1779
d.1831
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James
b.~1821
m. 1846 Mary
Mitchell
London
Peter
b.~1781
d.~1807
John
b.~1791
d.~1807
James
b.~1793
d.~1825



Donald
b.~1601

Alasdair
b.~1602

Malcolm
(Inverenzie)
b.~1602
d. 1677
Donnchadh
B~1562 d.1604
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Calum moir [2]
b~1585


[1] This is taken from the Innerhaddon genealogy at GD50/101

[2] #41-1613c - Callum Moir McGregour bastard sone to umqll Duncan McAllester Vrek

[3] Richard says that the Drumcharrie connection rests on the proof that James McGregor born 1821 was the son of Captain Charles and that he went to London and married Mary Ann Mitchell in 1846 (islington)and managed to die at Sebastopol in 1855 (this James was living in Kent in 1851 and was superintendent of police but was sacked for not being able to direct his men so it relies on him then joining the army and going off to the Crimea and dying). A Mary Ann( Mitchell) McGregor widowed remarried in Essex in 1857.
There is another family that claims descent separately from James BUT Charles did have a tendency to get women pregnant and not marry them (and he left a will which names a James). He did have a brother (Lieutentant) James who died in 1825 who might also have had an illegitimate child James - according to the death record of the child James in 1884: the reputed father was James McGregor an officer in the army (by Elspet Cameron) but just to confuse the issue even more there was in the same parish a Charles Willox McGregor whose wife was Elspet Cameron but he was not in the army, was married and had no James on record.

Do I know for sure that James in Islington marrying Mary Anne Mitchell in 1846 is the son of Charles. No but that is what he put on his marriage certificate! Would I stake my life on it being 100% correct - no I wouldn’t! But, I think this family specialised in illegitimacy so it could well indeed be the right line and if so SHOULD go back to Roro.

The tree for Peter McG in Warrington and Kath LeLievre (which is this line) is
James 1821-25 = Mary Ann Mitchell
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Charles Alexander 1852-1882
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Charles Alexander
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Charles Alexander
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Kath Le Lievre

Kath wrote in 2011
"As for the James ‘refuted’ son of James senior. He was at Delavorar in the 1841 census with Robert McGregor (the last surviving brother of Capt. Charles and Lt. James senior), and a shepherd further north of there in later census takings up until the time of his death in 1884. The ‘other’ James son of Charles (born 1821) was a policeman in London and died in the Crimea on June 3 1855. I am fairly confident I have this right now, well at least until yet another James emerges in the tree!!

In 2008 Kath wrote this
James McGregor who went to England to join the Metropolitan Police in 1842 and was 'recommended' by the Duke of Richmond. James' son, grandson and great grandson (my grandfather) were all named Charles Alexander MacGregor.

James (born 13 August 1821) was the eldest son of Captain Charles McGregor, Tacksman of 'Delavorar' who served in the 1st Regiment of Foot (Royal Scots) and was a Justice of the Peace for Banffshire. His mother was Janet Fleming (born 25 December 1794, died 15 March 1889).

Captain Charles McGregor (born 25 August 1779, died 31 March 1831) was the eldest son of Robert Grant McGregor (born c 1737, died 30 October 1816) and Ann(a) Grant (born c 1740, died 12 August 1829). Charles had at least 12 siblings (in order of birth - Marjory, Barbara, Isobel, Helen, [Charles himself], Peter, Anna, Mary, Andrew, John, James, Robert and Jane).

Charles died when James was about 10 and 'Delavorar' passed to his only surviving brother Robert. His brother Andrew died as a child and the three others predeceased him as follows:
- Peter (born 1781) died (1807) leading a charge on Chumar in northern India as a Lieutenant with the 17th Regiment of Foot (Royal Leicestershire).
- John (born 1791) died (1807) in Buenos Aires with the 88th Regiment of Foot (Connaught Rangers) as part of the notorious ‘Whitelock Expedition’.
- James (born 1793, died 1825) was in the 84th Regiment of Foot (York and Lancaster). Service record unknown.
As an poignant note, Charles's three sons were named James, John and Peter. He also had a daughter Barbara.
In death Charles divided his 'estate' between his brother Robert and his older unmarried sister Isabella (born 1775). In his will he stated that “I further burden my said heirs executors and legators [Robert and Isabella] with the charge of maintenance and education of my children James, John and Peter desiring that they may be obedient to their uncle and aunt, and particularly I rely on the kindness and affection of my said sister Isabella that she will care for my said children as if they were her own and thereby nominate and appoint my said children or such of them as shall be in life at the death of my said sister Isabella to be sole heir or heirs in equal portions of whatever subject or property she may be in possession of at the time of her death”. At this time his wife Janet and daughter Barbara did not live with him, however both were provided for in the will. I have been unable to determine what happened to John and Peter, but Barbara went on to marry a James Fraser.

Charles's father Robert also served in the army, in the Clanalpin Fencibles. It is Robert's father who I cannot verify. In John Ward's Roro tree he says that Patrick was the father but while I have been able to verify that a Patrick Grant McGregor existed (he was 'cautioner' in the will of James Gordon alias McGregor, a brother in Ward's tree) I have been unable to locate any records connecting Patrick to Robert. I am also unsure as to whether Robert was an only child, which would be somewhat of a rarity at that time.

Robert's mother was Barbara Farquharson eldest daughter of Andrew Farquharson of Allargue and Barbara Stewart. I was able to learn this through a court case over later inheritance of part of the Farquharson Allargue/Breda estate. I am currently waiting on a copy of the 'Broughdearg Manuscript' to see if that sheds any light on the existence of a Patrick.
Just as an aside there was a James McGregor (alias Gordon) in Pittyvaich who also goes back to Stronfearnan - he wrote to the soon-to-become Chief Sir John [PD60/67] in 1788 offersing to give him a targe[t] used by his ancestor John Dow of Stronfearnan at Glenfruin. There is a brief reference to the battle