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Genealogy of The Clan Gregor - 24 - The Duncansons and Charlisons

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Eoin dubh / Black John
(~1350, died 1415)
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Eoin a'bhicair / John, Vicar of Fortingall, 1406
b.~1381
Fortingall
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Donnchadh / Duncan [1]
~1400
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Tearlach ciar / Charles kerr [2]
b.~1425 d.1494
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Duncan Charlisson [5]
b.~1450 d.1494
(listed 1484)



Malcolm Charlisson
b.~1452


Duncan Mcolchaluim [8]
b.~1485 d.1522
Drumcharre

Donald Charlisson [7]
b.~1454
(listed 1488)
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Raibart mor [6]
b.~1460
Strathyre


MacRob in Strathyre
John Duncanson [3]
b.~1430 died 1491
Balloch
(witness 1448)
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Descendants of John Duncanson
Gregor Duncanson [4] [10]
b.~1428 d.1515
Roro

Ewin [13]
b.~1460 d.1503
Roro
Eoghan dubh [11]
b.~1426
(witness 1448)

Griogair
b.~1460 alive 1525


Malcolm Duncanson [12]
b.~1435
(witness 1488)


[1] Not recorded but implied by 'Duncansons'

[2] Obit: 1494, July 24. Death of Terloch Keir; son of Duncan Macgregor
Tearlach Kerr is the son of Duncan as per the Deans book. Duncan Charlissoun is a tenant of Robert Menzies of Enoch in a series of documents in 1484-1492 along with Gregor duncanson. So I would suggest that tearlach ker is a son of Duncan who is a son of John the vicar and part of the fortingall line. This would also explain why he is mentioned with prominence in the Deans books where as the second and subsequent sons of the Glenstrae line are not mentioned. [Neil MacGregor]

[3] Obit: 1491. March 10. Death of John Duncanson MacGregor at Bellicht, he was buried in Inchadin on the north side of the Great Altar.

[4] Obit: 1515, April. Death of Gregor Duncanson, at Roro

[5] BBT obit: 1494-05-16 Duncan Charlissoun Lochdochard (probably son of Terloch Keir 24/7/1494)
26th October 1484. The Lords decree and deliver that Johne Stewart, Robert Menzeis, Robert M'Nare, Alexr. Finlawsoun M'Gillomartin, Donald M'Giltairr, Johne Rede Mengies, Finlaw Croy, Finlaw M'Amdy, Finlaw M'Nare, Robert Rede, Finlaw M'Antalzor, Fand Millar, Andro Finlysoun, Duncan Campbell, Marion Campbell, Gregor Duncanson, Duncan Charlisson, and the remnant or rest of the tenants and inhabitants of the land of Aberfeldy and Dalrawer, shall consent and pay to William of Rothune of that Ilk, Knight, the iiialis of the third of the two part of the lands of the Lordship of Weyme of the Whitsunday term gone past, and also that the said persons, with the tenants foresaid, shall content and pay to the said Sir William the ' malis ' and dewties of the two part of the land of the said lordship of ' Weyme ' of the said Whitsunday term, pertaining to him by reason of assignation of a Rev. father, William, Bishop of Aberdeen, Sir Mungo ' Lokert,' Mr ' Dauid ' Cuperdale, and Mr Alex. Tower, Archdean of Dunkeld ; and ordains that the bailies there to distrain said persons and tenants their lands and goods for the said malis, and they were lawfully summoned to personally appear, and having been oftimes called and did not compeer." Acts of the Lords of Council^ Civil Cases.
One of the tenants of Sir Robert the Menzies, Duncan Charlisson, who was on the list of those who had not paid their " mails" in 1484, was again, in 1492, for some offence not mentioned, brought before the Lords of Council by virtue of a summons from Sir Robert, who, not appearing, the case was allowed to drop, as follows :
" June 22. Before the Lords of Council appeared Duncan Charlisson, and pleaded that because Robert Menzies of the Enoch gert summons him at his instance for certain actions contained in the summons, and would not compere to 'folow' him there before the Council." Acts of the Lords of Council, Civil Cases, P- 237-


[6] The existence of Robert as a son of Charles kerr is implied by Duncan bane Macrob Vcearlich, no 88 in 1590 list

[8] Obit: 1522 Nov. 6. Death of Duncan McOlchallam VcKerlich at Drumcharre.

[10] 26th October 1484. The Lords decree and deliver that Johne Stewart, Robert Menzeis, Robert M'Nare, Alexr. Finlawsoun M'Gillomartin, Donald M'Giltairr, Johne Rede Mengies, Finlaw Croy, Finlaw M'Amdy, Finlaw M'Nare, Robert Rede, Finlaw M'Antalzor, Fand Millar, Andro Finlysoun, Duncan Campbell, Marion Campbell, Gregor Duncanson, Duncan Charlisson, and the remnant or rest of the tenants and inhabitants of the land of Aberfeldy and Dalrawer, shall consent and pay to William of Rothune of that Ilk, Knight, the iiialis of the third of the two part of the lands of the Lordship of Weyme of the Whitsunday term gone past, and also that the said persons, with the tenants foresaid, shall content and pay to the said Sir William the ' malis ' and dewties of the two part of the land of the said lordship of ' Weyme ' of the said Whitsunday term, pertaining to him by reason of assignation of a Rev. father, William, Bishop of Aberdeen, Sir Mungo ' Lokert,' Mr ' Dauid ' Cuperdale, and Mr Alex. Tower, Archdean of Dunkeld ; and ordains that the bailies there to distrain said persons and tenants their lands and goods for the said malis, and they were lawfully summoned to personally appear, and having been oftimes called and did not compeer." Acts of the Lords of Council^ Civil Cases.

[11] 1448 charter Witnesses: Alan Stewart, granter's brother, Peter McGregor of Sronmelachan,[The chief, died 1461] John Johnston, [wanting] Campbell, Ewar Duncanson, [Probably Eoghan Duncanson], Duncan Vean, David, chanter of Lismore, and sir Gavin, curate of Dysart.

[13] Obit: 1505 Oct. 20. Death of Ewine MacGregor, son of Gregor Duncanson in Roro.

[14] Obit: 1525 August 17. Death of John mor McEan Vec Condochy alias Maknecht Ewchirvlairris. Buried in Inchadin







1552 June 26. John Gour McDuncan VcAlexander Kayr were murdered by Alexander Menzies.
1552 June 26. Murder of Gregor, Clerk by Ewine McDuncan VcGour de Roro and buried in Straythfelen.


1464 witnesses : John Duncanson McEver [or McEven], Ewan ["Eugenius"] McCorll, Celestine McGillechan, John McEven ["Eugenii"], John Mc[..]card, John McGore, and John McAlpin with many others. Witnesses to this present instrument: Celestine McEver [or McEven], vicar of the church of St. Martin, Dugald McEver [or McEven], and John Duncanson McEver [or McEven]. Notary: Donald McGil[leroi?], priest of the diocese of Argyll. [Listed as no. 2 of Inventory no. 13 infra.]
Comments by Neil MacGregor






 
 
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